Le FIGARO - VENDREDI 14 Janvier
2000
IRAN - L'ayatollah Khalkhali a envoyé des millers de personnes à la potence.
Il vient de se rallier aux refomateurs
(English translation follows after French text.)

"Si mes victimes devaient revenir sur terre,
je les exécuterais encore une fois".
LIran qui cherche aujourdhui à sortir des ténèbres de la revolution, de la guerre et de lautocratie cléricale, préférerait sans doute oublier layatollah Khalkhali. Le personnage embarrasse tout le monde, les conservateurs qui lapplaudissaient jadis et les réformateurs auxquels il vient de se rallier. Mais il était le seul à ne pas sen rendre compte.
A 73 ans, atteint par la maladie de Parkinson, le petit homme à barbiche et grosses lunettes mène une vie paisible de prière et denseignement
coranique, toujours escorté par deux soldats en ames. Il ne regrette rien: "Si mes
victimes devaient revenir sur terre, dit-il souvent, je les exécuterais encore une
fois, toutes, sans exception ".
Propos recueillis à Qom par Serge Michel...
LE FIGARO. Que faites-vous depuis dix ans que vous avez quitté la justice révolutionnaire?
Mohammad Sadegh KHALKHALI.
Jétais malade du coeur. Maintenant, je vais mieux et je
reviens en politique.
De quel côté?
Avec lAssociation des religieux combattants (gauche réformatrice).
Quest-ce qui vous plaît chez le président Khatami?
Je naime pas les réformateurs qui veulent semer le trouble.
Mais je suis complètement daccord avec le président.
Jaime beaucoup son idée du dialogue entre civilisations. Et aussi le développement
de la société civile.
Pourquoi ce retournement après avoir executé tellement de gens?
Je nai pas changé d'avis. Je nai jamais été extrémiste. Jai
appliqué les lois islamiques.Tous ceux que jai condamnés à mort lont été
selon le Coran (les mains et les pieds de layatollah tremblent de manière
inhabituelle).
Combien avez-vous signé de condamnations à
mort?Un journaliste qui vous a rencontré à
lépoque raconte que linterview dans votre bureau était interrompue par des téléphones durant lesquels vous donniez lordre de tuer. Vous en souvenez-vous?Les crimes nazis ont été punis. Et la justice internationale
poursuit de plus en plus les responsables des massacres, en Bosnie, au Kosovo.
Vous voulez dire que je pourrais être convoqué au Tribunal pénal international
de La Haye? (layatollah semble pris dun doute soudain et puis sourit à
nouveau).
Non, ce nest pas possible. Si javais rnal agi, limam Khomeyni me
laurait dit. Je nai fait que ce quil m'a demandé.
LE FIGARO
Butcher of the Iranian Revolution
The butcher of the Iranian Revolution grants an audience at his house, in the heart of the holy city of Qom, between the end of a siesta and the start of evening prayers. In 1979, only the name of Ayatollah Khalkhali was enough to generate terror. His signature equated with firing squads, public whippings or death by stoning. Thousands of men and women were executed after a process that hardly lasted a few minutes, or without proper trial. Today, as Iran seeks to surface from years of revolution, war and clerical tyranny, it prefers to forget Ayatollah Khalkhali. This figure embraces everyone, the conservatives who applauded him and the liberals whom he has just rallied to. But he is the only one not aware of this happening. At 73, struck by Parkinson disease, this little man with a beard and big glasses leads a happy and peaceful life teaching the Koran, always escorted by two armed soldiers. He regrets nothing: "If my victims were to come back on earth," he says often, "I would execute them again, all of them, without exception."LE FIGARO What have you been doing in the last ten years since leaving the Revolutionary Court?
Sadegh KHALKHALI
- I was ill with a heart condition. I feel better now and have returned to politics.
LE FIGARO - Which faction?
KHALKHALI With the (left-wing reformist) Holy Warriors Organisation.
LE FIGARO What do you like about President Khatami?
KHALKHALI I dont like the reformers who want to forment trouble. But, I totally agree with the president.
LE FIGARO Why this about-turn after having executed so many people?
KHALKHALI I have not changed my views. I was never an extremist. I carried out the laws of Islam. All those whom I condemned to death was according to the Koran (the hands and feet of the ayatollah trembles in the usual manner).
LE FIGARO How many people have you condemned to death?
KHALKHALI I dont know. Surely less than a 1,000.
LE FIGARO A journalist who met you at the time recalls that during an interview in your office he was constantly interrupted by telephone calls during which you gave killing orders. Do you remember?
KHALKHALI These are rumours. Everyone was allowed a fair process. It was necessary to execute those persons who were corrupt and immoral. Some of them escaped the country and I was not able to punish them. Thats a pity. But the fact that they never returned to Iran proves that they considered themselves guilty. You are strange, Europeans. The Germans murdered many young people in Paris but nobody says anything. But when Iran punishes the depraved and the profiteers of the Shahs dictatorship, you come here and say Khalkhali this, Khalkhali that.
LE FIGARO The crimes of the Nazis were punished. And international justice continues to pursue more and more those responsible for massacres, in Bosnia, at Kosovo.
KHALKHALI Are you saying that I may be summoned to an International Justice Tribunal at The Hague? (the ayatollah seems to be caught by a sudden doubt and then smiles again). No, it is not possible! If I had acted wrongly, Imam Khomeini would have told me. I only did what he asked me to do.
An interview with Ayatollah Sadegh Khalkhali in Qom by Serge Michel
Source: LE FIGARO 14TH January 2000/ Translated from French into English by CK - UK